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Jul 8, 2019 3:43 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

OLA Hosts Gathering In Sag Harbor To Support Local Immigrants

Minerva Perez, executive director of OLA, addresses the volunteers at Christ Episcopal Church in Sag Harbor on July 3.
Jul 9, 2019 1:10 PM

As people flocked to the region last week to celebrate America’s independence with backyard barbecues and glasses of rosé, East End locals got together to confront a sobering American reality facing immigrant families.

At the Christ Episcopal Church in Sag Harbor on July 3, Organización Latino-Americana of Eastern Long Island, or OLA—a nonprofit Latino advocacy agency—hosted a gathering to encourage community members to act locally to support immigrants right here.

“I am here, OLA is here, and you are all here for a reason,” said Minerva Perez, executive director of OLA, to a room full of willing volunteers. “We have needless suffering and fear and danger here, and we need your act of engagement.”

To that end, the organization is offering a host of different initiatives despite continuing threats by President Donald Trump to deport immigrants who are in the country illegally, as well as expected U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids.

On a government level, community members can engage through court observation, helping to gather information and monitor what goes on day to day in local courts. Ms. Perez emphasized that experts in this area are not needed. “We are looking for people who live in those towns to observe what goes on in their own towns or villages,” she said.

“I think it’s really made a difference, because no one’s ever observed,” said OLA volunteer Jackie Gavron, who visits court in East Hampton on Wednesdays and Thursdays. “You look at the tone, you look at the language, you look at how different people are spoken to.”

Community members also can assist OLA’s human rights attorney, Andrew Strong, with analysis of documents obtained through Freedom of Information Law requests that can often shed light on important trends happening in the law enforcement system.

“OLA … is dedicated to doing this massive amount of work as an adjunct to towns and municipalities and police forces,” Ms. Perez said, adding that the organization will share its findings back with local governments.

OLA is also initiating a dedicated public education team that will aim to engage with school districts, acting as a resource for them, as well as study enrollment policies that may differ from district to district.

In the 23 East End school districts, Ms. Perez said, Latinos make up an average of at least 45 percent of the student body, a number she said likely is lower than reality. They are “setting high academic bars for themselves and their peers,” Ms. Perez said.

One student who has done just that is Jon Lopez, a first-generation American, Sag Harbor local and second-year student at Georgetown University. He just took a gap semester to serve as OLA’s administrative assistant and youth liaison, helping to launch Latino youth leadership dinners aimed to “uplift each other,” he said.

The first one was held a few weeks ago and, thanks to social media, word spread fast. About 15 kids showed up ready to engage and learn from one another, he said.

“It’s really nice to gather students who are just like me who are able to vent about issues that they see in school, or whether they have dreams of becoming a surgeon, or a doctor, or attending some Ivy League school, or being able to take some sort of vocational path,” Mr. Lopez said. “A lot of these kids who are just like me have so much aspirations and dreams … what we need, in my opinion, from the community is possibly more mentors.”

The recent passing of the “Green Light NY” bill—considered a big win for the community, as it gives undocumented immigrants the ability to obtain driver’s licenses—also creates a need for local driver’s license mentors. These mentors would ensure that those seeking licenses are adequately prepared, whether that means helping them gather the correct documents or study for related tests.

“Having people in the community stand with someone and help them through that process—it’s a new process—just feels so much better, and it’s really key to making this work,” Ms. Perez said.

Other areas mentioned during the gathering include medical transportation assistance and family ambassadors, which would help the Latino community better navigate the area. “There are people in our community who are kind of lost even if they’ve been here for a bit,” Ms. Perez said, adding that needs could be as simple as helping a family obtain a library card.

With all these initiatives and a community eager to help, Ms. Perez still acknowledged that threats against immigrants on a national level aren’t going away yet. That makes local engagement all the more important.

“What’s missing a lot is our ability to envision the future where this community has survived because of the empathy and action of our fellow community members,” she said. “If we can really envision this thing, we are going to create it.”

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Bravo to OLA!
By tenn tom (242), remsenburg on Jul 9, 19 7:25 AM
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Bravo to open borders? Bravo to the mass violation of our immigration laws? Bravo to the open, brazen, and traitorous support of illegal aliens and the vast network of cartel connected human smugglers?

Why do you believe illegal aliens have the absolute and unquestionable right to enter our country and stay here regardless of our laws?

Is it because you think this nation is illegitimate, unworthy of controlling it's borders or immigration?

Is every single person "escaping ...more
By MoronEliminator (203), Montauk on Jul 9, 19 9:33 AM
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Hey Moron, can you point me to where anyone said "illegal aliens have the absolute and unquestionable right to enter our country and stay here regardless of our laws"?

Thanks!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 9:39 AM
For the past few weeks the incendiary cant of the true believers on this forum has been even more mindless than usual. (Assuming that's possible.) The paradoxically named Moron Eliminator's absurd asseveration above is representative.

Not, as I have said before, that I object to it. Any rational person who reads their infantile schoolyard jabber comes away with the sure knowledge that these yahoos are crazy.

Folks whose reason has not been fatally corrupted by brutish belief ...more
By highhatsize (4063), East Quogue on Jul 9, 19 11:35 AM
Bloviation

By Sturgis (584), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 3:30 PM
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Thank you for supplying the word I was looking for! I was reading HHS' comment and thinking - there has to be a word for someone who regurgitates a bunch of big adjectives and synonyms to make themselves appear smugly smarter than everyone else while saying absolutely nothing of substance or responding to the topic of discussion.
By localEH (406), East Hampton on Jul 9, 19 3:58 PM
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You hit the nail on the head, took a few words to get there.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 4:07 PM
@ Sturgis & localEH

Knuckle-draggers
By highhatsize (4063), East Quogue on Jul 9, 19 4:14 PM
Rise above, Hat. Remember that when you wrestle with a pig both of you might get dirty but the pig likes it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 5:02 PM
Good one!

"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference!"

Mark Twain

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!
By Nero (282), Sag Harbor on Jul 9, 19 5:22 PM
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Credit to George Bernard Shaw for the quote, though it's the only thing I know about him.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 10:44 PM
Right back at ya HHS & you too FBHG ...puppet....
Jul 10, 19 11:28 AM appended by Sturgis
Hahahaha Whatever you say FBHG Hey why don’t you open your door to some immigrants? Immigrants that have not been vetted ... Complete strangers Have an answer for that Or do you need to hash it out?
By Sturgis (584), Southampton on Jul 10, 19 11:28 AM
Thanks, Sturgis! Do you want to tell us about your conspiracy theory surrounding Parkland today, or are you still hashing it out?
Jul 10, 19 11:43 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Thanks for ignoring the question! I wouldn't want people to know if I supported false flag conspiracy theories either. As to your question, why would I?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 10, 19 11:43 AM
Seek help already....sheesh....
Classic traits of an instigating ,petulant bully ......
Stick to the subject in this particular article ....

Your response is , “ why would I”... that’s interesting ....

You wouldn’t but you expect the country to do that ....ok makes sense ....

By Sturgis (584), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 8:27 AM
He’s not a bully for calling you out on your bs
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 8:31 AM
Please specify where I said immigrants should be housed for free or let in the country without vetting!

Also please keep trying to dodge talking about your support for false flag conspiracy theories!

I think it gives readers some important context about you!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 8:42 AM
What BS...?
Please
He knows EXACTLY what I’m talking about and is absolutely beside himself because I won’t, lay it all out ...
I even gave my reasons as to why I would not post certain things but he would not stop pretending to be obtuse....

Epitome of a bully




Now we’re on a COMPLETELY different subject but he will not stop harping on a dead subject.

And you’re just a fan ....


Fred have you opened YOUR ...more
By Sturgis (584), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 1:20 PM
Exactly, I never said that immigrants should be housed for free or let in the country without vetting.

I don't remember your reasons for choosing to bring up but not elaborating on your false flag conspiracy theory about Parkland. Can you remind me?

I keep harping because I think the fact you hold false flag conspiracy theories about a school shooting gives readers important context about you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 1:49 PM
@ Sturgis

Well, "I" don't know what you're talking about and "I" don't remember your comments about Parkland but if Fore1gnBornHBgrown's implication that you thought that the Democrats KILLED ALL THOSE CHILDREN TO DISCREDIT THE CAUSE OF 2ND AMENDMENT ADVOCATES[?] is accurate, I'd like to know.

Because that would be truly, truly crazy, you know, even considering the "normal" spectrum of dementia that is the realm, exclusively, of true believer "thought."

Please, enlighten ...more
By highhatsize (4063), East Quogue on Jul 11, 19 1:50 PM
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I should clarify: my intention isn't to imply that Sturgis believes Democrats are to blame, nor that he believes they did it to discredit the cause of 2nd amendment advocates.

In fact, I have no real idea what Sturgis believes was the motive for what he alleges was a false flag attack at Parkland, and no matter how many times I ask he won't elaborate. He seemed to imply it had something to do with an active shooter training the Sheriff's office provided to a Florida mosque, but that's as ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 1:57 PM
" Fake Postings "
By themarlinspike (385), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 11, 19 2:00 PM
What do you mean, Marlin?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 2:28 PM
That’s a bs answer.im not advocating for open borders. When you seek asylum, you have certain rights. One is you have to be in the USA to do so. Trump has mishandled the whole thing. They are not illegal if they are seeking asylum. As a side note, why aren’t all the people who are against abortion not adopting many children? That’s the same foolish argument you make for taking in immigrants.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 2:46 PM
@ Fore1gnBornHBgrown

Quote:

"He seemed to imply it had something to do with an active shooter training the Sheriff's office provided to a Florida mosque ..."
--------------------------

I think that I see part of the source of your confusion, Fore1gnBornHBgrown. You forgot that Sturgis is a true believer. Since it's called, "Active Shooter Training" (and since true believers never look beyond the title), Sturgis doubtless believes that it's a course on how to BE an ...more
By highhatsize (4063), East Quogue on Jul 12, 19 9:12 AM
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Hahahaha uh no ....
Besides
Stick to the subject HHS

By Sturgis (584), Southampton on Jul 13, 19 10:33 PM
It sure would be nice, Hat. Alas, I think we'll never truly learn what Sturgis' false flag conspiracy theory about Parkland actually entails.

What we do know is he has one and that should be enough to keep any rational person from taking him seriously.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 19 11:05 PM
the only immigrants scared are those who broke our laws by illegally entering our country. the only illegal immigrants being rounded up for deportation are those who failed to appear for their court date to determine if they meet the standards to stay here, or those who were denied entry and refused to leave. Sorry liberals but they are criminal aliens and should be sent back to where they came. There are millions of immigrants waiting for their turn via the legal method. Anyone helping a criminal ...more
By Walt (286), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 9:32 PM
Please...
You’re a joke
It’s YOUR assumption I think it’s a FFC
However why not stick to the subject
Let all of us know when you invite some undocumented strangers into your home then you’ll be taken seriously
By Sturgis (584), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 9:37 AM
I'm not suggesting the U.S. should welcome unvetted strangers, so why would I? Having said that, if a family showed up at my door in the middle of the night seeking refuge, you bet I'd offer a helping hand.

Back to your false flag conspiracy theory, what then DO you actually think, Sturgis?

You have the floor: please explain why you're telling folks to question the facts as the know them in regard to the school shooting in Parkland. While you're at it, please tell us what you think ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 9:50 AM
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By Win sky (47), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 10:46 AM
Investigated for what?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 11:19 AM
ola is not helping our country, just helping a many ILLEGAL people drain the resources from our area. Our schools, hospitals, housing and other services are being drained by these ILLEGAL people.
My grandparents immigrated here LEGALLY from europe to Ellis Island for a new life. They worked here, paid taxes and became CITIZENS of our USA. They gave to the country
DRAIN OUR SWAMP...
By knitter (1751), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 11:13 AM
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Fyi, undocumented people pay taxes too.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 11:23 AM
Hey FB, I have to chime in here...illegal immigrants CAN pay taxes if they file for a tax I.D. akin to a corporation or someone that is self-employed. They cannot legally be an employee with a valid I-9 with the requisite withholding taxes. Not commenting on anything else here, but I had to go through all of this as part of my corporate tax audits - Independent Contractors versus Employee audits are brutal...like a colonoscopy without anesthesia...just one level up from unclaimed property.
By G.A.Lombardi (486), Hampton Bays on Jul 9, 19 12:33 PM
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None of what you said is wrong. I'm pointing out that they pay sales taxes at a minimum, as well as FICA for those who work on the books (either with authorization via DACA or using a fraudulent identity).
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 12:45 PM
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By bigfresh (4420), north sea on Jul 9, 19 1:07 PM
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/1/18241692/undocumented-immigrants-pay-state-local-taxes

$1.1 billion in taxes paid to New York State by undocumented immigrants.
Jul 9, 19 1:41 PM appended by Slightmadness
https://www.marketplace.org/2019/01/28/undocumented-immigrants-quietly-pay-billions-social-security-and-receive-no/
By Slightmadness (19), East hampton on Jul 9, 19 1:41 PM
Undocumented immigrants pay $13 Billion into social security and receive $0 out. That doesn't sound like a drain to me.
By Slightmadness (19), East hampton on Jul 9, 19 1:46 PM
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Answer this; How can someone who is undocumented pay income tax if they undocumented?

By Hamptonsway (77), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 10:27 PM
DACA recipients have work authorization, for one.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 10:35 PM
Two more classes of people occurred to me: those whose work visas expired and overstayed are still able to file taxes with their tax id numbers, and individuals who are in the country but want to file taxes can obtain an Individual Taxpayer ID Number.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/individual-taxpayer-identification-number
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 11:26 PM
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Google what is an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number).
By bmr80 (32), east quogue on Jul 10, 19 6:02 PM
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I'm all for legal immigrants, it's the illegal and undocumented ones I object to. Is there any limit to the number of people allowed to simply cross the southern border and expect to stay here? If you allow it for them then shouldn't the same apply to people from China, India, Africa, and so on? What's the answer OLA?
By country joe (52), sag harbor on Jul 9, 19 12:42 PM
Facilitation of criminal activities is nothing to be celebrated.
By Preliator Lives (409), Obamavillie on Jul 9, 19 1:18 PM
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Please specify what criminal activity is being facilitated.

Entering illegally is the crime, not being in the country.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 1:26 PM
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By Win sky (47), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 2:49 PM
They broke the law they are illegal period what dont you understand????
By chief1 (2737), southampton on Jul 11, 19 12:11 AM
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Apparently what you don't understand is the moral dilemma of deporting people who entered illegally as kids through no choice of their own.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 10:22 AM
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DOW 27,000!

Dow jumps 200 points to break above 27,000 for the first time ever PUBLISHED THU, JUL 11 2019 3:04 AM EDTUPDATED 18 MIN AGO


GO TRUMP !!!

By 27dan (2733), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 11, 19 1:18 PM
M2 as of this week: 14.7 trillion dollars

Print another couple trillion, maybe it'll hit 30,000...
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 11, 19 1:50 PM
The Catholic Church has a very long and well documented history of helping international criminals escape accountability and prosecution.

Look how they have spent 100s of years shuffling predatory priests from country to country. I'm sure much of what they've learned is being used here for illegal fugitives of US immigration law.

Some headlines from the same crowd that gave us this one:

"A global look at the Catholic Church's sex abuse problem - AP News"

"Sexual ...more
By even flow (851), East Hampton on Jul 11, 19 2:02 PM
Assuming all of that is true, what does it have to do with THIS group?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 3:02 PM
Looks like his earthly disciples got sent to the wrong address
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 2:27 PM
wow the economy is doing great, good news !
By Erin 27 E (1216), hampton bays on Jul 11, 19 4:04 PM
Survey says: not the most popular answer

Trump has still failed to top the Obama administrations numbers in 2014. Well past the uptick from the bottom falling out.

Cheerleading a coattail rider. Sad...
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 11, 19 7:25 PM
now now mr z don't be such a sore loser
By Erin 27 E (1216), hampton bays on Jul 11, 19 8:27 PM
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Any second now the bottom's going to drop on Trump's economy and Z will rejoice and say he told us so!!!

Any second now...

Maybe if he tries holding his breath...
By joe hampton (3362), The Hamptons on Jul 11, 19 8:56 PM
Every nominal indice shows that we are headed for recession thanks to the dumbest administration ever pouring gasoline on a steady ember. And, blew a massive hole in the debt and deficit. Typical CONservative behavior for the last forty plus years. Cry about "tax and spend", but cut taxes on the wealthy at the expense of everyone else. Wall St. is not Main Street, and it never will be.

As far as the "sore loser" horse****, it proves you know nothing of which you speak. Including economics.
Jul 11, 19 10:29 PM appended by Mr. Z
The losers as of late are farmers: Chapter 12 federal court filings, a type of bankruptcy protection largely for small farmers, increased from 361 filings in 2014 to 498 in 2018, according to federal court records. “My phone is ringing constantly. It’s all farmers,” said Minneapolis-St. Paul area bankruptcy attorney Barbara May. “Their banks are calling in the loans and cutting them off.” ~ Courtesy of Reuters
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 11, 19 10:29 PM
You have been predicting the end of the world for over 15 years.
By even flow (851), East Hampton on Jul 12, 19 8:29 AM
415 ppm CO2 and rising.

Even the "Great Dying" which created all the carbon we've burned since the Industrial Revolution with the exception of coal took quite some time to take. Such things are progressive and do not happen overnight.

But you're so gosh darn smart you know stuff like that...
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 12, 19 1:47 PM
Weekly Jobless Claims Plunge to 209,000

The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits fell last week, suggesting the labor market has continued to strengthen .

Initial claims dropped by 13,000 to a seasonally adjusted 209,000 for the week ended July 6, the Labor Department said on Thursday.

Obama, the food stamps president

President Trump, the jobs President

Biden, still can’t figure it out
By They call me (2708), southampton on Jul 11, 19 8:53 PM
Bush was the food stamps president. Watching Cheney run away in his wheelchair after blowing the t**s of the economy and Obama's inauguration was hilarious, actually...
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 11, 19 10:31 PM
Kansas finally figured it out. Apparently, the GOP economic disaster team has left their capitol. In other words, the Republican economic ignorami have left the building...


The comeback state of 2019: Kansas economy rebounds from tax-cutting disaster

WED, JUL 10 2019 6:02 PM EDT
Scott Cohn

Two years after repealing steep tax cuts, Kansas’ budget is back in the black.

Other improving states include North Dakota, North Carolina and Nebraska.

The ...more
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 11, 19 10:59 PM
They call me, the dog whistle commenter
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 9:13 PM
Trump to Host ‘Big Meeting’ with Tech Companies on Free Speech…

LONG overdue ...
By joe hampton (3362), The Hamptons on Jul 12, 19 6:48 AM
Some would call this treason! They (government officials and big tech) are selling their own country out to line their pockets.
By Undocumented Democrat (1958), southampton on Jul 12, 19 6:51 AM
All the right wing looms who are mostly banned for the extremist hate they preach, long overdue. Hahahahaha
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 12, 19 7:10 AM
Left wing bolsheviks are less than human.
By themarlinspike (385), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 12, 19 7:18 AM
Nobody is less than human, even you Marlin :-)
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 19 9:24 AM
Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao & all their supporters are all inhuman.
Jul 13, 19 8:50 AM appended by themarlinspike
I bet you see yourself on the list.
By themarlinspike (385), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 13, 19 8:50 AM
Nobody is less than human, even you Marlin :-)
Jul 13, 19 9:11 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Lol, what list, Marlin?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 19 9:11 AM
That would include a human embryo and human fetus.
Jul 14, 19 9:00 AM appended by themarlinspike
You got yourself some super corrupted foreign DNA there.
By themarlinspike (385), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 14, 19 9:00 AM
Would it? I suppose that would depend on your definition of "nobody" right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 9:04 AM
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By themarlinspike (385), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 14, 19 9:40 AM
Thanks Marlin! You're off for the rest of the day. Let's pick up again tomorrow!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 9:47 AM
Thank you amoeba
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 12, 19 8:30 AM
Nobody is more upset about illegal immigration that legal immigrants.
By even flow (851), East Hampton on Jul 12, 19 8:31 AM
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Why does the left apparently favor ILLEGALS entering the country?
By bigfresh (4420), north sea on Jul 12, 19 4:13 PM
We don't. That's called a straw man.

Do you know what a straw man is?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 19 4:50 PM
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Most people aren't educated enough to know they're being used...
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 13, 19 1:56 AM
Fore, don’t confuse him.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 12, 19 4:52 PM
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Pls explain the alt left rationale for decrying efforts to deport or detain illegals, not a straw man at all , just a simple question.
By bigfresh (4420), north sea on Jul 12, 19 5:10 PM
Lol, not wanting to deport certain people, such as those who served this country or who arrived as children and grew up here, is not equivalent to not wanting to deport anyone...but anyone who approaches the topic with a minimal amount of nuance knows that.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 19 7:11 PM
Illegal is illegal is illegal, just not in the minds of the left, pitiful.
By bigfresh (4420), north sea on Jul 12, 19 8:15 PM
There's that lack of nuance I was talking about!

We know you don't care about the moral implications of deporting people who arrived here as kids through no fault of their own. It just turns out that many people do.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 19 8:44 PM
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Something... something... something... Bible>>> Sins of the Father... something.... something... Christian...
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 13, 19 1:54 AM
*sigh* hypocr......something.......something......

"Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,"

1 Timothy 1:8-10
By Bayman3142 (206), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 7:39 AM
Lol, are you citing the bible to explain why people who entered as children through no fault of their own, and grew up as Americans in all ways except on paper, should be deported?

Hilarious.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 7:44 AM
Wonderful display of homophobia as well.

Sad...
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 14, 19 7:58 AM
A. Fore....please be more careful. The original post was about legality. I posted to respond to the dopey "something...something" comment critical of Christianity by my statement. Christians obey the Law. It is unlawful to knowingly and willfully enter this country by any means other than those set by the government. A child cannot be held responsible for actions of an adult. The child lacks a culpable mental state. So, before falling off your rocker laughing, think twice about what you are reading.

B. ...more
By Bayman3142 (206), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 9:49 AM
I pointed out one example of illegal activity that shouldn't be prosecuted, both prior to and following you comment, which you seem to agree with.

Turns out neither the bible, nor our laws, are fully up-to-date with reality.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 10:07 AM
Is homosexuality a sin because God said so, or some men who didn't approve decided it was?

My bet is on option B.
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 14, 19 10:23 PM
Illegal immigrants=votes for democrats

That’s really the answer to every immigration question you’ll ever have.
By DiseaseDiocese (519), Riverhead on Jul 13, 19 11:22 PM
Non-citizens can't vote, Diseased.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 19 11:51 PM
Of source they can, and they do and you know it.
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 11:47 AM
If I was aware of any non-citizens voting I'd alert the proper authorities.

If you're aware of any non-citizens voting I encourage you to do the same.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 11:53 AM
I know there are bank robberies too. It doesn't mean I know who did the robbery.
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 12:12 PM
If you know anyone who's robbing banks, I encourage you to alert the proper authorities.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 12:33 PM
I am only aware banks are robbed.

I am only aware voting by non-citizens occurs.

Non-citizens can and do, vote, sure as banks are robbed.
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 2:06 PM
Lol, how many people are convicted of robbing banks?

How many non-citizens are convicted of voting illegally?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:41 PM
keep telling yourself that Foreign. To become a citizen one must pass a test ,correct? That test is given in ENGLISH , correct? Why are there signs in SPANISH delineating polling places?
By bigfresh (4420), north sea on Jul 14, 19 6:13 AM
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Lol, aren't you the one who keeps telling yourself that voter fraud is rampant without any evidence?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 7:28 AM
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You are a conspiracy theory nut. Some lame accusations brought up by trump. You can’t research and find 3 cases of voter fraud. You should grow up.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 6:39 AM
care to respond to the question as to why there are signs in Spanish at polling places?
By bigfresh (4420), north sea on Jul 14, 19 6:46 AM
So that LEGAL residents [whose primary language is Spanish] can know what the rules are?

The U. S. Constitution does not require that everyone speak only English!

[ . . . staggering . . . ]
By PBR (4928), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 7:02 AM
You are pegging the foolish meter,back it off a little.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 7:12 AM
Still sawin' away on that big fresh fiddle we see!

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!
By Nero (282), Sag Harbor on Jul 14, 19 12:19 PM
Yes Nero, I apologize
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 2:26 PM
PBR, boy that was a tough one. Because you read in Spanish makes you illegal? Distorted right wing thinking.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 7:10 AM
Fred, when responding to my last post, you were correct. But I should’ve clarified that the END GAME is the goal of democrats to allow the flow of illegal immigration in this country to eventually get their votes by offering FREE things. Promise those free things solely for power and control. No other reason.
By DiseaseDiocese (519), Riverhead on Jul 14, 19 1:50 PM
That's a very Machiavellian view which, I think, tells us more about you and your lack of empathy than the people you're talking about.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 1:57 PM
Diseased, if your party was the party of inclusion, they wouldn’t post racist , bigoted and homophobic comments. You are distorting views to suit your point of view. Keep up the good work
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 2:14 PM
@ DiseaseDiocese

Madness.

A ludicrous, completely unsubstantiatable (because it is complete poo) fanatical BELIEF born entirely of mindless, irrational prejudice.

Is short, the same old same old true believer cant.
By highhatsize (4063), East Quogue on Jul 14, 19 2:43 PM
the citizenship test is in English , no need to pander to those who obviously can read English, that is IF they are actually citizens.
By bigfresh (4420), north sea on Jul 14, 19 4:32 PM
@ bigfresh

Simply WRONG once again.* Your ignorance is ever reliable.

* U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services - - - Other Languages - - - Exceptions and Accommodations - - - English Language Exemptions
By highhatsize (4063), East Quogue on Jul 14, 19 5:28 PM
Bf, post 3 instances of voter fraud by non citizens. We can’t even get citizens to vote, and you think we have voter fraud with non citizens.you are sounding like a broken record, a bad record at that.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 4:52 PM
Trump Says Ilhan Omar Should Go Back to Africa: ‘You Can’t Leave Fast Enough’
MEDIAITE - By Tommy ChristopherJul 14th, 2019, 9:38

How do I know Trump is doing a great job? All I have to do is skim the headlines, see who he pisses off, and get on with yet another great day!

MAGA
By They call me (2708), southampton on Jul 15, 19 7:09 AM
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Nobody is surprised that you support racism.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 7:54 AM
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@ They call me

The profundity of Trump's stupidity becomes more apparent with each passing day. (Three of the four congresswomen whom he told to "go back where you came from" are natural born Americans.) Frighteningly, it is getting worse.

On can only hope that a cranial MRI to detect organic brain damage is scheduled at the next presidential health check-up.
By highhatsize (4063), East Quogue on Jul 15, 19 8:11 AM
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What the heck are you even talking about?! These are AMERICAN CITIZENS. How can you support Trump making such a statement?! If you're ok with this, you're now displaying your hate to OUR OWN U.S. CITIZENS and we've reached another level completely regarding intolerance in this country! You should be thoroughly ashamed at yourself.
By 2329702 (45), East Quogue on Jul 15, 19 8:17 AM
Sparking outrage is the point. The more time and energy we spend talking about it, the more successful it was.

Let's just call it racist like we all know it is and move on.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 8:33 AM
@ Fore1gnBornHBgrown

I think that it is a mistake to ascribe PURPOSE to Trump's mental eructations. They are, rather, utterly irrational symptoms of the progressive degeneration of his neural circuitry.

Let's just hope we get him out before system failure causes him to push the nuclear button.
By highhatsize (4063), East Quogue on Jul 15, 19 10:53 AM
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Mental illness is one possibility.

Riling up both supporters and opponents alike is my bet, though.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 11:00 AM
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Trumps bigoted racist tweet only excites his base. You forgot he told them all to go back where there came from. If you think it’s a good tweet, you fall into the bigot and racist category.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 7:18 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/14/us/politics/trump-twitter-race.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

TRUMP SUPPORTERS - You have no respect for this country, the flag, the constitution or the people. So SHUT UP!
Anyone who still supports this racist, xenophobic, POS can just get the hell out.
By Polandspring (94), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 8:55 AM
"How do I know Trump is doing a great job? All I have to do is skim the headlines, see who he pisses off, and get on with yet another great day!"

You know it.

Keep America Great!
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 11:42 AM
See, folks? It's not about being right or moral, it's about getting under your opponent's skin.

Just call the comment racist like we all know it is and move on.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 11:54 AM
posting Racist tweets is a good job? If you think so
Jul 15, 19 12:00 PM appended by Fred s
Stoking the flames of racism is something a racist does, great job trump. Your base loves it
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 12:00 PM
Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......
8:27 AM - Jul 14, 2019
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 12:06 PM
Great, now you repost it. Maybe the president didn’t realize 3 of the congresswoman are from the USA. Apparently trump has a very bad view of his own country. Yes Po boy, you are a true patriot reposting that pathetic tweet, it’s assumed you agree with him. Racist love it
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 12:11 PM
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Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump

....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....
8:27 AM - Jul 14, 2019
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 12:14 PM
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Still racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 12:32 PM
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Trump is too stupid and ignorant to know that we are the ones who broke those countries. the United States has consistently overthrown social democracy in favor of dictatorships and authoritarian regimes for decades and decades.
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 15, 19 2:08 PM
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Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump

....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!





146K
8:27 AM - Jul 14, 2019
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 12:39 PM
I believe retweet’s of racist bs makes you a racist bs er
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 12:45 PM
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HHS & FBHG
Funny stuff!!!

By Sturgis (584), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 12:40 PM
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I don't think false flag conspiracy theories are funny and neither do the victims' parents, I'd wager.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 12:43 PM
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Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump

....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!
8:27 AM - Jul 14, 2019
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 1:16 PM
Yes, telling people to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is still racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 1:36 PM
"Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done."
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 1:50 PM
Just goes to show how low IQ Trump and his loyal followers are.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 15, 19 1:53 PM
Because they were elected fix this country, not another one.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 1:53 PM
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Ah, good, we're finally getting to the heart of the matter - President Trump forcing Democrats to define what the anti-American end goal is.

And by "fix" you mean...????
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 2:02 PM
BS not when you are trying to bring in radical culture changing Sharia Law and if you don't like that opinion Fore and HHS then too F bad ! this is not Somalia !
By Ditch Bum (811), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 2:06 PM
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You'd have to look at their individual platforms, Po.

They're not MY elected officials, so I have no idea what they ran on.

I'm just pointing out that they were elected based on that platform.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:35 PM
LOL...No. You said "Because they were elected fix this country."

Coward.

It's ok Fore, we know the answer regardless. You people aren't fooling anyone....but yourselves.

By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 2:45 PM
Isn't that why people are elected? Isn't that why you voted for Trump?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:03 PM
In the case of Ilhan Omar, AOC and Rashida Tlaib I STAND WITH TRUMP ........ GTF OUT !

Omar "married" her brother in order to defraud the American immigration process. She swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution after she got elected. Her actions both before and after her election show her to be dishonorable, dishonest, racist and anti-american.

Indeed she can't be deported fast enough.
By They call me (2708), southampton on Jul 15, 19 1:45 PM
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Islam is an ideology that does not mesh well with western culture .and radical Islam just doesn't belong in America, period.
By Ditch Bum (811), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 1:47 PM
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This is still an immigration thread, correct?

Ok. Well, don’t you just love a little Charlie Kirk sometimes?

“Obama & Biden deported more people than Trump has.
Obama & Biden built the detention facilities
Obama & Biden separated children from their families.
So why does President Trump get demonized when he enforces the law?
If Democrats actually cared, they would’ve protested Obama”

Is Charlie Kirk a racist too Fred?
Is ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (519), Riverhead on Jul 15, 19 1:54 PM
Telling people to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:01 PM
Did I say that? Did he retweet trumps racist tweet? If so , he fits the bill. As to your post, you are making false claims. Obama didn’t separate families to be a deterrent, as trump did. You are a clown.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 2:08 PM
If you support radical Islam then you should go back home with them !

TRUMP !
By Undocumented Democrat (1958), southampton on Jul 15, 19 2:09 PM
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Maybe so, but he still has my vote. Really don’t care. I guess I’m a racist then, by you and Fred’s definition.

But I remember when you, Fred, hihat and the rest of the libbbies here were unwilling to acknowledge those ladies absolute hatred for Jews and Israel. Defending them to death. Well, what goes around comes around. Go buy some Kleenex. That’s the only thing that’ll help your tears. Pre-order a bulk of them today on amazon. (It’s prime day) ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (519), Riverhead on Jul 15, 19 2:11 PM
Yes, condoning racism is racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:40 PM
“If you’re not happy here, then you can leave,” President Trump said, prompting cheers from the audience. “As far as I’m concerned, if you hate our country, if you’re not happy here, you can leave.”
This is awesome.... it's about time someone said what is THE TRUTH!.. It's exactly the right tone to take with all the hypocritical whiners. Their mouths say America is bad. Their feet say they'd rather be here than anywhere else on the planet. You can tell ...more
By joe hampton (3362), The Hamptons on Jul 15, 19 2:20 PM
Yes, telling people to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:39 PM
If protecting our country from these radicals is racist then I am guilty as charged !
By joe hampton (3362), The Hamptons on Jul 15, 19 3:27 PM
Disagreeing with them doesn't make you racist. Telling them to go back to their country because you disagree with them is racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:29 PM
I don't think that word means what you think that word means. "Racist: A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races." Telling an illegal alien to return to their country of origin does not have any reference to their race and pertains solely to their national origin and the illegality of their actions. But hey keep calling everyone a racist and see how well that works out for ya.
By localEH (406), East Hampton on Jul 15, 19 3:38 PM
If a first generation German member of Congress spouted Nazi propaganda and was told to go back to his country would that also be racist in your view?
By bigfresh (4420), north sea on Jul 15, 19 3:38 PM
Local: Telling someone to go back to their country isn't racist on its own. Telling them to go back to their country because you disagree with what they say is racist because it's an expression of superiority based on race, skin color, or national origin.

Bf: Yes, that'd still be racist. If you can't debate someone based on the merit of your ideas, that's not an excuse to be racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:49 PM
Keep making excuses for racists. You are close behind
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 3:50 PM
We knew that already, but thanks for clarifying.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 3:52 PM
Fore you just don't get it. Racism means you are prejudiced against a person because of their race. Race means "a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits". Most countries have many many different races. For example, I have a French friend who if is 100% Chinese of ancestry, but is French. I have a Mexican friend who has bright ginger red hair, blue eyes, pale skin and freckles. So telling someone to go back to their country of origin has absolutely nothing to do ...more
By localEH (406), East Hampton on Jul 15, 19 6:14 PM
Local, give it up. It was a racist bigoted tweet. None of the congresswoman are illegal aliens. Trumps tweet was race baiting at its finest. Your but but but is not commendable or well reasoned. Racism is racism, it’s not cute or funny.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 6:25 PM
Local: telling someone to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is racist. It's an expression of belief that you're superior and you dismiss others' views based on national origin.

The ideas of congressmembers don't have different value because of their ethnic backgrounds. That's racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 8:06 PM
Local is correct. The statement was bigoted but not racist. Please check the definitions.
By bird (791), Sag Harbor on Jul 15, 19 8:23 PM
I continue to believe telling someone to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is an expression of belief that they are inferior to you based on their national origins.

It's also stupid when the people in question are the same nationality as you are.

If you want to use xenophobic or bigoted that's your choice, but it's racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 8:40 PM
Racist a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another.
"we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club"

Rethink that reply.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 8:41 PM
I went back and read the entire thread(s) above. I reread DJT's twitter post. I rechecked the definitions of racist and bigot. My post above is correct, "The statement was bigoted but not racist.".
By bird (791), Sag Harbor on Jul 16, 19 12:27 PM
I continue to believe telling someone to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is an expression of belief that they are inferior to you based on their national origins.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 12:30 PM
Bigoted and racist. We agree to disagree
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 12:36 PM
Unfortunately words and their meanings matter. By choosing deliberate ignorance you demonstrate that the only difference between yourselves and the Trumpets is dogma. The saddest part is that by joining in with the screeching hysteria of the fringe left you and the many others that engage in this nonsense just drive moderate democrats further to the right. Remember that democrats are not a majority. They require the independent vote to win. While the stupidity coming out of the mouths of democrats ...more
By bird (791), Sag Harbor on Jul 16, 19 6:16 PM
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Deliberate ignorance is ignoring the president tweeting bigoted racist comments. As one of the most powerful men in the world, you cannot ignore it. Just say nothing? Blissful ignorance. As to the democrats not being the majority, neither is the Republican Party.theres a 3-4% of voters that have to be swayed one way or the other. If you think any decent person is going to vote for this racist, I think your wrong.if you recall hrc won the majority of votes. Buyers remorse has set in.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 9:57 PM
Racist and proud of it, what a way to go through life.
By Mets fan (1443), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 2:21 PM
But mets its you that supports the 4 racist women communist morons of the apocalypse and proud of it ?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Ilhan Omar
Rashida Tlaib
Ayanna Pressley

Racist Omar hates America, but she sure as hell knows how to fraudulently abuse our generous immigration an welfare laws.
By Undocumented Democrat (1958), southampton on Jul 15, 19 2:25 PM
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I think you hate America, UD.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:44 PM
I think you hate woman fore, no one talks about the fact that in sharia courts, women have no rights.is this what you see for the future of america ? If not then go on the record now !
By Erin 27 E (1216), hampton bays on Jul 15, 19 2:52 PM
You're allowed to think whatever you want but I support an equal rights amendment for women, so...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:00 PM
so then you make no sense ? you cannot support sharia law and womens rights ? how ridiculous you make yourself sound
By Erin 27 E (1216), hampton bays on Jul 15, 19 3:03 PM
You'll have to show me where I said I support "sharia law" because I don't recall ever saying I did.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:10 PM
You will have to show me where you, Mets, Mr Z or HHS ever denounced it "sharia law" because I don't recall ever reading that you did.

They wont be happy until you and your daughters are wearing your hi jab like a good little FGM woman Erin
By 27dan (2733), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 15, 19 3:21 PM
I don't even know what "sharia law" means but if you give me examples I'll be glad to address them; to address the ones you brought up, I'm not interested in making anyone wear religious garb or allowing dangerous surgical procedures with zero medical benefit to be carried out on young women.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:26 PM
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I don't even know what "sharia law" means says it all
By They call me (2708), southampton on Jul 16, 19 1:22 AM
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Explain it to me, Tcm. Just give specific examples instead of hiding behind loaded terms and I'll tell you exactly what I think.

Or keep hiding behind loaded terms and fomenting division, it makes no difference to me.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 1:27 AM
Go back to the country you came from ud and fix that s...h...! See how how easy it is to be a racist like the orange chimpanzee!
By Mets fan (1443), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 8:44 PM
President Trump, Omar lied to immigration saying that she was married to her brother (not legitimate marriage. She falsified her status to get here - that makes her fully eligible for deportation proceedings.
By 27dan (2733), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 15, 19 2:33 PM
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Hot news flash, trump is a liar. You can’t believe a word he says, but the true believers think he’s god.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 4:23 PM
The bottom line, the president tweets racist bigoted comments, the faithful fall in line behind him. What we have have is a group of unapologetic racists who follow their leader, bravo. Well done
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 5:22 PM
President Trump is leading the world back from PC destruction and calling out the True racists by just stating the obvious. Great respect for POTUS
By They call me (2708), southampton on Jul 16, 19 1:23 AM
Telling people to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 1:28 AM
...and telling them to come back when they fixed the problems in the country they left.
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 12:00 PM
Also, assuming that people are from another country because of their skin color is prejudiced.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 12:08 PM
....actually, no.

prej·u·diced
/ˈprejədəst/
having or showing a dislike or distrust that is derived from prejudice; bigoted.

If you read the entire tweet(s), you'll find the dislike stems from the "squad's" dislike of America and their anti-America sentiment - aka, love it or leave it. You're probably too young to remember that. Maybe get back to me when you read the full tweet.








By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 9:58 PM
“ A sickness known as hate. Not a virus, not a microbe, not a germ—but a sickness nonetheless, highly contagious, deadly in its effects. Don't look for it in the Twilight Zone—look for it in a mirror. Look for it before the light goes out altogether. ”
By Mr. Z (11412), North Sea on Jul 16, 19 1:26 AM
The hate is coming from AOC plus 3 and yes if you don't like this country than get the f OUT ! Has nothing to do with race !

Ilhan Omar to Trump: ‘You Are Stoking White Nationalism’
---------------------------
Beats the hell out of Islamalism, and Sharia law.

I'll fight and die protecting the Constitution, from Islam and Sharia law!
By Ditch Bum (811), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 2:12 AM
trumps a racist, you repeating it and admiring him for it, you are nothing but an unapologetic racist. Unfortunately we all knew that.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 5:25 AM
Q: What do racists, clowns and fools have in common?

A: They are all things that Fred calls you when he’s triggered and upset....and wrong.
By DiseaseDiocese (519), Riverhead on Jul 16, 19 8:34 AM
A: They all support Donald J. Trump for President
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 8:40 AM
Not everyone who supports Donald Trump is a racist, but if you're a racist you probably support Donald Trump.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 9:23 AM
You poor child. You must hate your parents for bringing you to such an evil, unfair, racist country.

Through that one act of thoughtlessness, they've doomed you to having to spend a lifetime working to tear the USA down from the inside.
By MoronEliminator (203), Montauk on Jul 16, 19 9:30 AM
Hey moron, that the place I came from is worse doesn't mean the place I am can't be better.

It's like you folks think the only people who can be critical of America are the descendants of the people who came on the Mayflower.

Contrary to your belief, one of the BEST things about America is that anyone can criticize her without fear of government reprisal.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 9:42 AM
Not wrong about you, I’m not triggered either. If the president is tweeting racist tweets, instead of condemning him, you clowns say it’s ok. Your still a fool.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 8:37 AM
You sure get knocked over by a feather often.
Jul 16, 19 8:47 AM appended by themarlinspike
For your nitwit leftist foreign comrade who thinks a death camp and concentration camp are 2 different things. READ THIS CURRENT PRESS ARTICLE !!! : Jul 15, 2019 5:11 PMPublication: The Southampton Press Supreme Court Appellate Division Orders Two Nazi-Looted Artworks To Be Returned To Heirs Of Holocaust Victim
By themarlinspike (385), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 16, 19 8:47 AM
Hey Marlin, a death camp is always a concentration camp but a concentration camp is not always a death camp.

Glad I could clear that up for you! Feel free to reply tomorrow when you get another two comments and we can discuss some more.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 12:36 PM
...and a detention center is not a concentration camp.
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 9:37 PM
Racism isn’t a feather It’s a brick.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 9:59 AM
More brain dead, racist cant that exemplifies the ignorance and stupidity of true believers. Not ONE assertion that these low-lows have made on this thread is FACT.

Rather, it's a compendium of tedious, moronic, baseless aspersions that only serve to advertise that true believers share the deplorable character of their contemptible Liar-in-Chief.

Does nothing embarrass them? God knows they embarrass NORMAL Americans just by being our countrymen.
By highhatsize (4063), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 11:00 AM
Since Trump was elected POTUS:

1) Achieved the lowest ever black unemployment

2) Have black business startups skyrocket over 400%

3) See wages go up for black workers

4) Sign prison reform (The First Step Act)

5) Pardon wrongfully convicted people of color

6) Increased funding for HBCU programs (Historically Black Colleges & Universities)

7) Technical education and vocational studies heavily used by minorities received $1.2 billion ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (519), Riverhead on Jul 16, 19 1:05 PM
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#6 cracked me up. Maybe you're not aware that he continues to insist the Central Park 5 were guilty despite being absolved by DNA evidence.
Jul 16, 19 1:15 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Oops, I mean #5.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 1:15 PM
R these 7 untrue?Changing the subject does not change the facts.You can't handle the truth.
By Taz (649), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 1:27 PM
From vox....As I’ve written before, Trump’s claims about the black unemployment rate are somewhat misleading. While it’s undeniable that the rate has hit a new low, it is also true that black unemployment began declining during the Obama administration and has been falling steadily for the past several years.

Trump hasn’t reversed those gains, but that doesn’t mean he can claim full credit for them either.

More importantly, black unemployment is still ...more
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 1:43 PM
For one thing, I don't see how these bullet points make his tweet not racist. Can you bridge the gap for us, Taz?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 1:44 PM
@ DiseaseDiocese & Taz

1) False - - - Fact Checker: "Trump’s outdated spin on the black unemployment rate" by By Salvador Rizzo (The Washington Post, March 26, 2019)

2) False - - - " Black business ownership didn’t increase 400 percent this year" by Kyra Haas (Politifact: The Punditfact Truth-O-Meter, August 27, 2018)
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Ignorance and stupidity coupled with the overarching LAZINESS that defines true believers. It's surprising that you ...more
By highhatsize (4063), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 1:55 PM
Tweet was directed at antiAmerican rhetoric-he did not ask all black/brown members of congress to leave thus, not racist.
By Taz (649), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 1:58 PM
Things r on the rite track regardless if u believe Obama started it or not. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. TRUMP 2020, KAG!!!
By Taz (649), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 2:02 PM
Things r on the rite track regardless if u believe Obama started it or not. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. TRUMP 2020, KAG!!!
By Taz (649), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 2:02 PM
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Bingo! He didn't like what they said, so his reaction was to tell them to go back to their country.

He doesn't do the same when he disagrees with white members of congress, ergo it's racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6897), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 2:06 PM
The central park 5 were thugs
By 27dan (2733), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 16, 19 9:01 PM
8) tweets racist and bigoted statements
9) his followers think it’s cute and funny and ok
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 1:12 PM
Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America. At least the part that's filled with racists, bigots, misogynists and generally not smart people.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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Hatred is so rabid in the Democrat Party, they are now infesting it upon each other. Sure is grand to see the tables turn on those subversive fools...aint it? The hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds.
By 27dan (2733), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 16, 19 8:58 PM
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Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
Jul 16, 19 9:07 PM appended by Po Boy
1 member liked this comment Fore1gnBornHBgrown
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 9:07 PM
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Sarcasm is lost on you
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 9:47 PM
Sarcasm is lost on you!

You mean, you don't like it when only a portion of what someone said is taken into consideration??? Tisk tisk....

Rock on President Trump!!
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 10:02 PM
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Keep defending the racist, it’s a good look for you.
By Fred s (2681), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 10:12 PM
Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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Fore1gnBornHBgrown
By Po Boy (4405), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 10:37 PM
My entire black family loves President Trump and is voting for him in 2020 ! Democrats have become unhinged, they have lost their minds! The Democrats have become totally unhinged due to President Trump. He is showing them to the American public to be exactly what they are.
By Undocumented Democrat (1958), southampton on Jul 17, 19 1:11 AM
The best that I can tell, in 2020 the Democrats are running on:

We loathe Donald Trump. We hate America. We hate you. We really hate the )ews.
Muslims are good. Christians are bad. White people are the cause of every ill on the planet, and if you disagree, you are a racist Nazi.

We're OK with murdering newborns. We swear we'll get Obamacare right the next time.

Unvetted Illegals must flood in through open US borders in unlimited numbers with impunity as they rape ...more
By They call me (2708), southampton on Jul 17, 19 12:59 AM
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